Episode 30: What Instructors Can Learn from Music Educators
Guests: Amy Lewis & Jesse Rathgeber
We kick off Season 4 with a conversation about music, creativity, and the art of learning. We hear from two UW–Madison music educators, Assistant Professors Amy Lewis and Jesse Rathgeber, as well as L&S students. They share stories of curiosity, improvisation, and connection that can inspire us all as instructors.
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Unpack This Episode
Grab a drink, gather your colleagues, and discuss.
- Do you have experience with music or another art form? How does that experience shape you?
- Where does “wonderment” appear in your courses?
- How might you add opportunities for creativity or improvisation in your courses?
- In what ways do students “perform” in your course? How do you help them prepare for these performances?
Further Reading
In this episode we mentioned, were inspired by, or wondered about the following resources and topics.
Acknowledgements
The L&S Exchange Podcast is brought to you by L&S Teaching, Learning, & Academic Planning and produced by the Instructional Design Collaborative. This podcast is recorded on ancestral Ho-Chunk land, a place their nation has called Teejop (day-JOPE) since time immemorial.
Production Credits
- Producer: David Macasaet
- Associate Producer: Molly Harris
- Audio Engineer: David Macasaet
- Audio Editor: David Macasaet
- Website Support: Laura Schmidli & Molly Harris
- Development Producer: Jonathan Klein
- Planning Group: Jonathan Klein, David Macasaet, Molly Harris, Laura Schmidli, Antonella Caloro, Maria Widmer
- Communications: Maria Widmer
- Executive Sponsorship: Shirin Malekpour